Town historians (chroniclers)

Discussion in 'Looking for Ancestors' started by berneldes, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. berneldes

    berneldes Member

    Do all towns in the Czech Republic have chroniclers? How are they
    found? Is there any place where one might ask for direction?
     
  2. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    The town chronicles are stored at county mainly) or regional archives. Bettre check situation at appropriate archive. Not every town has chronicles, some was not preserved or was lost. Count, that before 1850 the chronicles are not common, especially in small towns. 90% of chronicles starts at cca 80ties of 19 century.
    Karel :)
     
  3. berneldes

    berneldes Member

    Karel,

    My ancestors were from Kdyne, Koute, Zahorany, Koryta, and
    Cernikov. Would these records be at the county archives or at
    Plzen regional archives? If county, would they be at Domazlice
    and would you need to make a reservation?

    Thanks again.

    Berneldes
     
  4. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    Well, I try to find answer to your question at web of SOA Plzeň (State Regional Archive) and it's subordinate SOkA (State County Archives), but I did not foudn single valued answer. The most important archive for you will be probably SOkA Domažlice, located at Horšovský Týn, where the archive of town Kdyně shall be (yrs. 1606-1945). Also other materials of town Kdyně (school, societies, clubs, corporations etc.) are stored at Horšovský Týn. Unfortunately materials are not processed and it is public open only partialy (= you have to agree with fund administrator).
    Fund of domincal administration (manor funds) are preserved at archive detached station of SOA Plzeň at Žlutice.
    Depends, what exactly you are looking for. At all cost you have count with many of hours of studying and searching and digging...
    Look also at these links:
    Černíkov - http://www.cernikov.cz/
    Zahořany - http://obeczahorany.cz/
    Koryta are part of village Bezděkov - http://www.sumavanet.cz/bezdekov/ou/
    Koute is village Kout na Šumavě - http://www.koutnas.cz/index.php?nid=535&lid=CZ&pic=MAIN
    Hope it helps you!
    Karel :)
     
  5. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Are you by chance a mathematician, Karel?
     
  6. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    Ne. Proč?
    No. Why?
    I am living in Bohemia and I have learned English in secondary school about 30 years ago.
    And what about you, Sova? Be in English speaking region and jibe at mistakes of others, who lives in opposite side of earth, is very elementary sport. :oops:
     
  7. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    I don't think Sova is jibing. 8)
    He only pointed out your single valued answer which sounds very mathematically.
     
  8. berneldes

    berneldes Member

    Dear karel,

    Again thank you for all the help. I wish that I could be as proficient in
    Czech as you are in English. I studied Czech a few years ago but I
    finally gave up. I know a little, but I could not help anyone.

    I appreciate your kindness in looking up information for me.

    Berneldes
     
  9. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    Thanks to Berneldes and to wer, too.
    In fact, I can't imagine sense "mathematical" in context of my answer, I'm sorry. Sova's note looks more like theorem "good mathematician = bad linguistician".
    Regards Karel :)
     
  10. doman

    doman Well-Known Member

    Come on, Guys ! :) ,
    I agreed that sounds very mathematically, very professional... Sova just wanted be sure :)
     
  11. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm sure Sova is far from such statements. He is physicist. :D

    The style of your answer simply fits the language used by mathematicians.

    That's like in Czech, hearing a person saying mám právě jedno auto instead of mám jedno auto you can bet the person has at least understanding for mathematics.

    And BTW, the "theorem" is false, a big part of linguistics is pure mathematics.

    Inženýr, fyzik a matematik jedou vlakem do Holandska. Inženýr kouká z okna a na pastvině uvidí tři krávy. Překvapeně zvolá: "Podívejte, všechny krávy v Holandsku jsou celé černé."
    "Kdepak," opraví jej fyzik, "přinejmenším tři krávy v Holandsku jsou celé černé".
    Matematik se ušklíbne a podotkne: "Přinejmenším tři krávy v Holandsku jsou přinejmenším z jedné strany celé černé."
     
  12. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    As my dictionary prompt me, single valued is jednoznačný. So if the answer is ambivalent, it means it is not single valued. I do not see anything special mathematician's.
    Maybe I distinguish it in Czech, but definitely not in English. Jsem rád, že jsem rád. Or - nobody is perfect.
    Karel :wink:
     
  13. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    No, I was not trying to poke fun at your simple mistake (point it out, yes, but only for your benefit). As you can tell, I make my share of mistakes in Czech. Rather, as wer pointed out, I'm a physicist, and as such the phrase you used, "single-valued answer," sounded like it was right out of one of my math textbooks. Since you speak English well, I wondered if the phrase came from a study of mathematics in English.

    Typically, in this context, one would say, "There is no single answer," rather than, "single-valued answer." Hence, my curiosity.

    Sorry to hijack your thread, berneldes. As you can tell, Karel is as knowledgeable in genealogical research as he is in English. A fortunate combination for you!
     
  14. berneldes

    berneldes Member

    Karel,

    I have an appointment set up for research. Thank you for your help.

    Berneldes
     
  15. Karel Fous

    Karel Fous Well-Known Member

    I am pleased, too, berneldes. :D
     
  16. JoeZ

    JoeZ Member

    Doman,

    What do you do in Viet Nam? How do you like that country?

    I was there in 1968 with the U.S. Army. Some day I would like to return.

    The weather was very nice near the ocean, but very hot inland.

    Joe
     
  17. doman

    doman Well-Known Member

    Hi Joe !

    What do I do in Vietnam ? :D , I am a Vietnamese ! :D

    Very glad to talk with you.

    It's such a long time since you were here...And everything almost changed.

    Return, please ! You're welcome in Vietnam.

    Have you ever been in winter in the North Vietnam ? It's so cold too, although without snow.

    Have a good day, Joe !
     

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