What does Jan Hus day mean to ordinary Czechs?

Discussion in 'Culture' started by michal7, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. Ark1tec

    Ark1tec Well-Known Member

    Interesting that about Jan Hus. another name or rather word(hussites) that i'd heard but knew not of the origin now that i do i myself feel enlightened.
    As for not knowing the exact date of the end of the second world war, no i don't, should i ?
     
  2. ta

    ta Well-Known Member

    I am Czech and as most of us Czechs, I was brought up in a godless world so to me, Hus was just another name to memorize for my history tests. I met my husband here in the US and later became a Christian (I am much happier now, by the way). Since he was/is half-Czech by marriage :wink: he started to acquaint himself with the Czech history and came across Jan Hus. So I kind of re-visited this whole historical figure through my studious husband and realized what a BAD ASS he was! I mean that guy had no fear whatsoever....
    Anyway, my husband was really amazed that the American Christian population doesn't even know about this guy even though he had played such an crucial role in the history of Christianity. He said that what they were taught was pretty much that there was Christ, then the Dark Ages, then Luther and that pretty much lead to the Christianity we see today. But before Martin Luther, there was Jan Hus - the pioneer of what we commonly think of today as "nondenominational Christianity". Way to go Hus!!!
     
  3. Ark1tec

    Ark1tec Well-Known Member

    Oh right he was before luther, so that explains what the catholisation was about, pre-protestant, i get it.
    he wasn't arian though was he? because you said god and that's it! did you mean no son of god?
     
  4. ta

    ta Well-Known Member

    What do you mean? I didn't get it...
     
  5. Ark1tec

    Ark1tec Well-Known Member

    the arians was a religious group durin the imperial roman empire who were christian though did not believe in jesus christ. someone earlier in this topic said one of the ways jan hus differed from others was he believed in god that was it. I thought that meant he was like arian in the way i just explained.
     
  6. ta

    ta Well-Known Member

    That's interesting, I didn't know about the Arians...
    Jan Hus was completely the "Jesus freak", meaning that he was preaching that Jesus Christ is the only way to get to Heaven - you don't need no fancy Catholic church to buy yourself into salvation...which was a radical thought at that time!
     
  7. scrimshaw

    scrimshaw Well-Known Member

    Ark1tek
    How can you be christian and not believe in Jesus Christ?
    Jan Hus, and Luther, and Calvin weren't denying the divinity of christ, they were rejecting some of the dogma of the catholic church.
    Mainly I think that you must be absolved of your sins, by a priest, rather than a personal connection with God.
     
  8. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    David, thanks for sharing. It seems to me, you've usually chosen in the past to refrain from sharing your personal beliefs regarding Christianity. One question, just out of curiosity - if you're willing to further engage - which biblical scriptures led you to that belief? If you'd rather not further engage, just say so. :)
     
  9. scrimshaw

    scrimshaw Well-Known Member

    Hi dzurisova
    Those are my understandings of the progression of christianity in a historical context.
    As far as personal beliefs, I suppose I might be considered the fallen catholic.
    Raised catholic, and family went to mass every Sunday. Stopped going to church, but tried different areas of spirituality, though I am still drawn to the tradition and the tranquility of the mass. Especially the traditional masses of my childhood.
    Probably I would classify myself as agnostic.
    Thanks for asking though.
    Still carry a prayer to the mother Mary in my wallet.
     
  10. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    Interesting. A friend of mine was also reared Catholic but considers himself agnostic. We have some interesting conversations.
     
  11. scrimshaw

    scrimshaw Well-Known Member

    Yea, I guess as the search goes on, we fall in and out categories. :wink:
     
  12. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    He appealed against the death sententence of the church council to the Jesus Christ as to the highest authority. Is it answer to your question?

    It is not correct to call him a Protestant. He was devoted Catholic. He only considered the New Testament, as the learning of the Son of the God, to be a religious authority superior to the Church.

    His "crime" was he was more loyal to Christ than to the Church, and more loyal to the King of Bohemia than to any of the Popes.
     
  13. Ark1tec

    Ark1tec Well-Known Member

    Y e s
     

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