CZ > EN Posedník

Discussion in 'Vocabulary & Translation Help' started by DanielZ, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. DanielZ

    DanielZ Well-Known Member


    The Chicago the White Sox (USA baseball team) has a player with the last name Posednik.

    I can't translate what the name means.

    Is the root:

    posedět: then the name might mean "one who sits after"?


    posednout: or might it mean "a possessor" or an "owner"?

    Thanks ahead of time,
  2. Alexx

    Alexx Well-Known Member

    the werb "posedět" means "be sitting for some time"

    Posedíme v hospodě. - We will be sitting at the pub (whole evening for example). I would rather use another werb then sit in english.
  3. DanielZ

    DanielZ Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Alexx

    But what is a posedník?

  4. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    Maybe it is someone whose philosophy is "Sometimes I sit and think, sometimes I just sit." :wink:
  5. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    It's not regular Czech word, so we can only guess. :)

    "posed" could mean "deer-stand".

    So posedník could be also person, who builds or uses deer-stands :)
  6. DanielZ

    DanielZ Well-Known Member

    Thanks Glenn and eso,

    I am glad to see others are confused as I am.

    I like "deer-stand maker."

  7. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Posedník (also podsedník, podsedek, posedek, podsadník) was a small farmer.

    Yes, the etymology goes along these lines. It’s something like “a sub-owner” or perhaps better “a sub-settler”.

    But in fact, the Czech word is a calque from German (Hintersässer, Hintersesser, Hintersitzer, Hintersiedler…) resp from Latin (subses).

    The word is not used in modern Czech except in historical context.
  8. bibax

    bibax Well-Known Member

    My guess:

    posedník (posedlník) from posedlý = obsessed by devil

    posed (bílý) is a toxic plant, devil's turnip (Bryonia alba)

    another possibility:

    posedník = possessor, from Latin possidere

    In any case, it is derived from the verb seděti (= to sit, Lat. sedere)

    Hmm.. Wer was faster (as usual).
  9. DanielZ

    DanielZ Well-Known Member


    Now that seems to be a very logical conclusion.

    Thank you,

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