NIBIRU Are you ready? The earth as we know it will change

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by The Animal, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    And there is allways "don't care factor", when you just choose randomly, because "Ono to nějak dopadne" ;)
  2. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Interesting... I had written a sentence about the only exception being for those who were catatonic or vegetative, but had removed it.

    But how does one determine what is the most probable way? Ans.: By trusting one's logic, senses/experience, and the experiences/recommendations of others. Either way, there is an element of trust in the unknown and/or undetermined. I should also mention the concept of "hope" as well in achieving a desired outcome.
  3. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Fine, but let's face it: Is someone who takes that kind of attitude toward virtually everything in life really living life, or just being carried along with the flow? Might as well be catatonic.
  4. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    I would argue, at least in the broader sense of "faith" and belief" (that is not exclusive to religion), that hope is the core motivation for faith. We humans constantly try to create some semblance of order around us, whether it is in search for causality or purpose in life. This is what has lead people to religion, philosophy and science from the beginnings of civilization.

    Rather than "contentment," however, as this is perhaps more subjective and individual, I would argue increased peace of mind, or assurance/confidence in one's actions or even in one's role in life--but again these are elements of hope as well.
  5. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    Wer got right. To believe in something can have different meanings. In Eso's question, it means that I have confidence it will work. I'm not home right now so I can't check to see if it will work. But it worked yesterday and I have no reason to believe it won't work today. So I sit at work with contentment that it is working because I believe (or have confidence) that it is working. I'm not sitting at work worried that when I get home I won't be able to cook or do dishes. I'm content in that area.

    The same concept can be applied to my belief that Heaven is a real place. I'm not there; I can't see it or touch it. But I'm content that when I die I will go there. I'm not sitting at work worrying about what will happen to me when I die because I believe I will go to heaven. I'm content in that area.

    Perhaps you believe like my brother-in-law, that when you die, there is no more, you simply no longer exist. He also doesn't sit at work worrying about what will happen to him when he dies. Why? Because he has a belief and his belief brings him contentment.

    Actually my husband came to US at age 22. He accepted Christ at age 25 (only 3 years later). I met him at age 35, therefore he was saved 10 years before I met him. My influence had nothing to do with his belief in God. I only help it mature. :wink: :) As he does the same for me.
  6. scrimshaw

    scrimshaw Well-Known Member

    Wer wrote.... In Czech we clearly differenciate “víra” (~ faith), “důvěra” (~ confidence/trust) and “přesvědčení” (~ conviction/certitude). I got a feeling you can use “belief” for all of these meanings in English. For me (and I guess for eso as well), the problem of water faucet is question of confidence.

    You are right, our use of 'belief' and 'believe' is evidently much broader than in czech. It can refer to religion or anything else.

    'Víra' the sense that Dzurisova and Sova are speaking about.
    It's kind of like 'knowing' with all your heart and mind something is true, but not needing physical proof that is is so. And yes, 'víra' can be very comforting.

    'Víra' is intrinsically a belief in something that is unprovable, otherwise why would someone need to have faith that someting is so, it would just be universally accepted, proven to be true.

    And Sova...yes, you are right, it is ok to believe someone is wrong, they have chosen the wrong belief, but, again you are right, if we can't respect and accept the diversity than it leads to intolerance and hate.
    I don't understand at all what's going on with the Shiite and the Suni.
    Their all muslims. Maybe it's some kind of power struggle like the protestants and the catholics had a couple hundred years ago in Europe.
  7. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    Excellent description David.
  8. BlackBox

    BlackBox Active Member

    The real problem about popular books and articles is that they discuss only the most bizzaro stuff like black holes, 10 dimensions, dark matter etc. Mortals would go zzzzzzzzzzzz over the real stuff.
    Naturally, if you tell me that your theory needs 10 dimensions or 10 times more matter in the universe than you can see, I am going to tell you that you need a better theory...
  9. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

    Very well said BlackBox. :wink:
  10. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

    Well, ty červený planeta where are ty?
    Jsem waiting. If ty decide to show up, just go the other way, and keep on trucking! 10-4 ? :wink: Just hammer down! In other words stay in the hammer lane! Catch you on the flip side! ya right!
  11. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    Ok, Jody were you drunk when you wrote this? :wink: :)
  12. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

    Ne, I was not drunk. :lol: :lol: I just thought that I would say something funny. :wink: :wink:

    It is like someone standing under a Bee Hive, and you are tapping on the side of it to get them to start swarming around. :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:

    Then, you wounder why you got stung. :roll: :roll: :roll:
  13. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

    I do not believe the end of the world is coming in 2012. But I do feel like time is near, 20 years left Maybe? One one person knows when the time will be, man cannot predict when the time will come.
  14. Ark1tec

    Ark1tec Well-Known Member

    I saw a meteorite last summer whilst camping, was that an omen?
    It was really big, does that mean it had a more profound reason for being there?
    I'm sure that if this planetoid is any real significant threat, the people at NASA will devise some plan to use all the nuclear capabilities the USA has to offer to take that little baby down so don't worry.
  15. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

    Ark1tec, you have to remember about NASA, Never A Straight Answer.

    They are hiding stuff z us. You can look at their web site. They renamed the planet then said it exists, now they say that it does not exists.

    Můj friends favorite moto, ( When in danger or in dought, run around in circles, scream and shout) :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:
  16. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    My favorite motto is: DON'T PANIC! :)
  17. Polednikova

    Polednikova Well-Known Member

    If you say the words 'Don't panic' to most English people, they will think instantly of a character in a long running comedy series 'Dad's Army' about a company of Home Guard soldiers in WWII. The Home Guard was made up of those who were too young or old to be in the forces or who worked in jobs which were thought to be too important to lose their employees for the duration of the war.

    Clive Dunn - who I think is still alive, although probably in his 80's or even 90's - played Lance Corporal Jones, the elderly village butcher who had served in the desert in WWI, one of the few members of the company who had had any military service.

    This is all a long way of saying that whenever there was a problem, Jones's catch phrase was 'Don't panic, don't panic!' in a very panicky voice!

    All in the interests of cross-cultural education! I always think that the more you know about the cultural history of the country you are aspiring to learn about, you closer you will be to its people. Another example for the British would be Torvill and Dean, our ice dancing champions in the 1980's. No-one who watched Bolero will forget the tingle we all felt at such a magical perfect performance. A truly national shared experience. Those older than me will probably cite our World Cup victory in 1966 but I was only 10 and wasn't interested in football!
  18. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I try to get hold of it.

    For Czechs, there is many catchphrases from old Czech movies or Cimrman's plays.


    Hliník se odstěhoval do Humpolce!
    Ono se ti to vymstí Jaromíre s těma sirkama.
    A on řekl, že ne.
    Marečku, podejte mi pero!
    Protože oba mají bílé kabáty...

    And many others :)
  19. The Animal

    The Animal Well-Known Member

  20. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    Isn't there some video about NOT ending times and how everything will be fine and how puppies will be everywhere and so on? :)

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