Role of men and women

Discussion in 'Culture' started by lisap, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. lisap

    lisap New Member

    I am doing a project on Czech Republic and I would like some information on the different roles of women and men.
    Are women in Prague independant, or homemakers the majority? How about the men? Are there more laborer's or business men? Do they have farms or do they work in the home?
    If you know of any good links that provide up to date information it would be greatly appreciated!
  2. Karel_lerak

    Karel_lerak Well-Known Member

    You may find some data in the pages of the Czech Statistical Office
  3. Zik

    Zik Well-Known Member

    Well, men and women are peer (do you say it so?) in the Czech Republic.
    It's not an Islamic country! :lol:
    During socialistic era women sometimes didn't work, they were at home and cared for their childern. But today it's very rarely.
    I think today it's in the Czech Republic the sime like in the USA or other western countries... :wink:
  4. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    That's not the experience I have with Czech families. For the Czech families I know (many of them) it's still very traditional where the woman does all the housework and cooking, yet both work outside the home.

    In fact out of the probably 20 czech families I know, every single one of them are like that. Whereas, most American families share the household chores between both spouses.
  5. Zik

    Zik Well-Known Member

    Well, it's truth that women ussualy cook etc. But they ussualy don't stay at home only, they have a job.

    But it's changing. I know a lot of families where cook men. In former times (socialism) were lot of families where worked at home women only. But today work men at home more and more. It's western life style and the Czech Republic is more and more a western country... :wink:
  6. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Really? Under communism there was working duty.

    And the situation was different in diffent periods. In 50’s there were a lot of females in households (that was relic of the capitalistic era). Later, the number dropped down dramatically - partly because of communistic propaganda (the Stakhanovite movement), partly because of legal pressure (working duty) and partly because of economic reasons (one salary per family was insufficient).
    In 80’s, the number was extreme low. The number increased with the fall of communism, but still is extreme low - current state is about 1 %.

    No, it is not, especially the USA are very different in this particular matter.
    Nor mine…
    To be fair, the families you know needn’t be representative (the more religious family, the more traditional family; the more rural family, the more traditional family etc), but I aggree with you. The male and female roles in society are different in the Czech Republic. You can’t say that one is superior - they are only different.

    Again, the socialism :roll:. Socialism was not supporting the traditional roles of males and females, the traditional model withstood in spite of it.

    Do you think doing houseworks? No, it’s only trendy to speak about it. Maybe, the model became more popular, but the traditional model still prevails.
  7. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    Wer, what do you mean by "the families I know"? Do you mean Czechs living in America? Rural Czechs living in CR or America? Or Religious Czechs? Most the Czechs I know live in America, yes. But I also know several living in CR. Also, the czech families I know living in America either live in my home town or Chicago, niether of which are rural. None of the Czech families I know are religious. Most are atheist, save my husband, step-daughter, & father-in-law, which I counted as one family.

    Yes, I do believe one form of living is superior to another. Normally, I would agree that one can not consider another superior -- only different. However, since I'm married to one of those "I don't do housework" European men, I consider the American way where household chores are split between the spouses superior to the Czech way where the woman works outside the home full time and still does all the housework! :twisted:
  8. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Nothing extra, I just think no person’s judgements on the whole society should be based on the sample of the people the person knows.
    In the morning when I woke up I saw the road in front of the house was again covered with snow :x. For some obscure reason, no female member of my family was outraged by this “disaster”. I have to agree with you - there is no justice left in this world :wink:.
  9. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    :D Cute! and point taken. I also don't fix the cars, clean the gutters, or unplug a drain. I do however, mow the lawn. :)

    I don't mind the old fashion (this is women's work and this is men's). I actually enjoy bringing my husband a plate of food only to turn around and fix him a drink. After all, love is all about serving one another -- and he serves me well in many different ways. [​IMG]

    (I had to put that in there because I know how much you czech people love the mushy love stuff) :wink:
  10. Anna683

    Anna683 Well-Known Member

    Could it be a generational thing, or are the younger couples just as traditional?

    It's not just the Czechs who are traditional. My 66-year-old father (British) has had a woman to do all his cooking and household chores his entire life:

    Child: his mum
    Student at university: his landlady
    Young teacher: another landlady
    Married man: his wife.

    Great life, eh? Probably not that uncommon either. I would just hope that most younger men no longer expect that or make their wives feel obliged to do all the housework.
  11. Yerusalyim

    Yerusalyim Well-Known Member

    The agreement my Czech wife and I have is that she will stay at home to raise our children and tend the house until the children are in school...then she'll seek work outside the home, but only during school hours. She does the MAJORITY of the housework, and I pitch in and help, dishes after dinner, helping fold the laundry, etc. I pay the bills and take care of the yard work. We're both happy with the circumstances.
  12. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    I would jump up and down and roll over in excitement if my husband ever picked up a dish to wash or helped fold one piece of laundry! :x :)
  13. Polednikova

    Polednikova Well-Known Member

    But if you're anything like me, you'd re-fold the piece of laundry because he'd not done it properly. My only saving grace is that now I'm older and wiser, I'd wait until he was out of the way before I did it!
  14. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    You're right, I would probably re-fold it! :lol:
  15. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    You know, you can fold t-shirt in 2 seconds! ;)
  16. scrimshaw

    scrimshaw Well-Known Member

    Eso....such useful things on the internet :lol:
  17. Ctyri koruny

    Ctyri koruny Well-Known Member

    That's a horrible and disgusting thing to say! It is your culture and your personal feelings, not your religion that dictates each persons role within a family!

    Anyway I don't think this is a Czech thing, men are like that everywhere. I am Irish and I lived with people from many different nationalities in college.

    I never lived with a man who did not expect me (A COMPLETE STRANGER!) to clean up after him!

    "REBECCA! You never clean!
    - I clean up after myself! You don't!
    *puzzled expression* "

    I don't think they're even aware! I think it's subconscious!

    A plea to all mothers: Make your little boys clean up after themselves!

    In all the "modern" families we have here.. the women work full time, and then cook and clean when they get home!
  18. dzurisova

    dzurisova Well-Known Member

    It's not a disgusting thing to say, it's a factual thing like it or not. You cannot deny that countries run by Islamic rule are oppressive to women. You can't attack him for stating a fact, even if the fact itself is disgusting!
  19. Ctyri koruny

    Ctyri koruny Well-Known Member

    You said it was a disgusting fact! You do not think it was disgusting to joke about it!?

    And it is not a fact! It is not universally true, and what you might see as "oppression" others might see as cultural differences.
    Yes there are places where women are oppressed by the law, where they are not allowed to work and where they have few rights, but this is not a religious problem.
    50 years ago in Ireland if you had a child out of wedlock it could be taken away from you against your will, you could be sent to a workhouse against your will, and your child could end up in an orphanage where it would likely starve or be molested by an evil priest. You think that has ANYTHING to do with Catholicism?
    That is a problem with an oppressive undiplomatic government or institution! Their religion does not come into it! Look at communism!

    But there are also Islamic countries where yes, it is frowned upon for women to go without head scarves, but it is not against the law.
    Women in most countries cannot go without shirts, this was not always the case, but was instrumented by Christians in the 1500s

    There are places where women are expected to work in the home only, but it is not the law. This goes for most countries both Islamic and not.
    It is ridiculous to identify nations by their belief systems.
    As ridiculous and disgusting as it is to say something like "African countries have corrupt governments." You can steam role over individuals with these terms - we will never make any progress as a world if we continue to use them!
    People need understanding, not judgment! That is the cause of inequality in the first place! And you spread it on the most basic human level! Like a plague!
    How can we force our own beliefs and standards of equality onto another nation?

    Do not act as if we are all civilized and clever just because for the past few years (a very short time in terms of history) our nations have been a bit more balanced (in our own bias estimation).
  20. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    Well, I think it could. Or at least with its interpretation in these times.

    I actualy see communism like kind of religion.

    Well... Easily.
    If it's ok or not is another question, but it's happening all the time.

    Cultures clash and some of them disappear. And some cultures are incompatible. For example culture of old Sparta would be incompatible with present Western culture.

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