Czech Courting customs (not wedding customs)

Talk about Czech customs, traditions, holidays, books, and the Czech way of life.

Moderators: Sova, gementricxs, Dana

RachelMacgregor
Member
Posts: 5
Joined: 01-Feb-06 19:25

Czech Courting customs (not wedding customs)

Postby RachelMacgregor » 01-Feb-06 19:55

Greetings!

I am currently writing a short story in which a man from the Czech Republic is in love with a Canadian woman. (They're working in Canada.) I am curious as to what courting customs/traditions might be considered sweet and maybe a little old-fashioned. The character has just fallen in love with her and has decided to court her properly. So what's properly?
LOL

For example: When or if would he bring her flowers? What kinds of things would they do on dates? Would he take her to dinner or would he ever cook for her?

Would there be anything particular to the culture that would be considered old-fashioned, but romantic?

I appreciate any insights you might give.

Thank you.
TallElf
Member
Posts: 18
Joined: 13-Nov-05 5:44
Location: ....

Postby TallElf » 06-Feb-06 10:04

well first, you should change things around. make it a czech female and a canadian male. that would be much more realistic.

if you want a clue as to what romance means to the typical czech male i would encourage you to watch the verona music video entitled, "jen tobě" :lol: . remember, if it appears in a eurodance video it has got to be true. 8)

http://www.verona-music.cz/new/ just go to multimedia...video..jen tobě.

and yes, this is the type of music i listen to. :D
RachelMacgregor
Member
Posts: 5
Joined: 01-Feb-06 19:25

Postby RachelMacgregor » 06-Feb-06 18:57

LOL Alas, it's already partially written. And the female character speaks Czech and once worked in Prague, so the other character has a connection to her, as they are very far from home right now. So far, he's taken her to dinner and gone on walks, and they've seen a movie together. That's it so far.

I'll take a look at the video, but I've seen some entries into Eurovision in the past. I think I'm scared. ha ha. Thank you for the reply, though.

Every little bit helps, even if it's amusing...
User avatar
brook
Senior Member
Posts: 102
Joined: 20-Aug-04 20:35
Location: Washington, D.C. / Prague

Postby brook » 07-Feb-06 19:54

TallElf wrote:if you want a clue as to what romance means to the typical czech male i would encourage you to watch the verona music video entitled, "jen tobě" :lol: . remember, if it appears in a eurodance video it has got to be true. 8)


:lol: Ha...that's funny...I'm going to refrain from making any comments!

Well, let's see... I had a czech guy who tried to "woo" me by bringing me chocolates on my name day (brook is my 'nom de plume' :wink: ). The really good chocolates - modre z nebe...mmm.... But anway, perhaps if your character has a name day or who's name could come close to a name that has an official name day, then maybe that would work as an extra "courting ritual." :)
RachelMacgregor
Member
Posts: 5
Joined: 01-Feb-06 19:25

Postby RachelMacgregor » 08-Feb-06 19:10

Is there any Czech equivalent to Rachel? (It's my character's name, not my real name) It means "ewe" in Hebrew. If not, I guess he could use her middle name, Ann.
magan
Senior Member
Posts: 691
Joined: 24-Jan-04 6:32
Location: Canada/Czech Republic

Postby magan » 08-Feb-06 19:45

I am not sure how realistic is that Canadian (who worked in CR) is speaking Czech. Be careful with degree of Czech learned as it is not easy language. Was she teaching English there? You have many here who can give you more detail regarding that. Placing your story shortly after 1990 would give you much more material as things were really changing in CR and being there at that time was very exciting.

Perhaps you can ask in Language section how much Czech they learned while working in CR. I would think that average person wouldn't learn to converse as everyone she would meet there would want to speak English. If she was there shortly after revolution as lots of people I(we were), courses where she could learn Czech were not available.

Courting customs very much depend on age of the people and their financial situation. Was he new in Canada or did he lived and worked there for a long time??

As to "courting by Czech men".........I have been around the block few times (with Czechs and Canadians) and don't have much to say to "romance". Czech men did not strike me as particularly romantic - customary shortest way to have sex (three dates?) and then weasel into situation where they can be "at home" where they both would stay in bed (she would cook meals for him without his help). You can create situation where Canadian woman would NOT cook for him (he would find that rather odd!).....Any Czech woman would start cooking for her man as that is the fastest way how to get man to marry you (some think). Once he would get her there (Czech women cook lovingly and do everything for their man) they would hardly get "out". Privacy shortage used to be problem in CR but I would dare to say that in Canada this would be usual scenario. He would only bring flowers before he gets her to have sex, later just for her Birthday or Name day (good idea, you can check Czech calendar there is name for each day). Then he will start forgeting ...

It would be Czlech man phoning woman he is interested in and he will be persistent as many Czech women are playing coy and men know they have to "push"....woman will eventually say yes. He will be "showing" on the street where she works or live to meet her by chance. He would take her to movies, for coffee to sit and talk long time (only when courting not after they have sex), walks. In CR he would not usually take her out for dinner just for coffee to nice coffee house). Czechs almost never had their own apartments (lived with parents) so it would be weekend at the cottage of some friends (friends not there) he will invite her to go to get her to bed and have privacy. Going camping in the summer is another way (he would definitely play quitar by the fire and sing "tramp songs" all Czechs know. In winter, it would be skiing (also some friends cottage).

I know one Czech man who is getting married very fast (now 6 times). It is cheaper, he says than to court Canadian woman. Canadian woman is expecting that he will take her out (dinners) incl wine even after they have sex. So he has this trick after few dinners out .....to invite them to his apartment to cook dumplings for her (not typically Czech for a Czech man). It always works for Canadian woman....very deceiving. However, next time she probably invite him to her place and makes dinner for them. From then on he will find the way how to spend their time in her place. Staying longer and longer...and then not leaving at all.

I appologize to all romantic Czech men. I know that there are some women on this board who do have them as husbands or boyfriends and they are more up-to-date on their behaviour with woman of other nationality. I personally would not chose Czech man for husband. Traditional role of good wife who works full time and does household and children full time for them is still very much in the back of their minds.

o.k. girls and (Czech) boys....now it is your turn!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
magan
Senior Member
Posts: 691
Joined: 24-Jan-04 6:32
Location: Canada/Czech Republic

Postby magan » 08-Feb-06 20:03

Please note that I am Czech happily married for 25 years to Canadian, so my experiences are not at the present time. I speak from experience of my Czech friends and my own is from long time ago. I do hope that Czech men changed and I am curious to see if it will spark conversation on this theme.
magan
Senior Member
Posts: 691
Joined: 24-Jan-04 6:32
Location: Canada/Czech Republic

Postby magan » 08-Feb-06 20:35

One more thing, Rachel. On bottom of the page in "Culture" look for "Previous page" and go all the way back. I just looked through a bit and there is just a wealth of info on cultural attitudes and personality trades of Czech men. You will have lot of interesting comments to read.
User avatar
gementricxs
Moderator
Posts: 688
Joined: 16-Aug-05 20:24
Location: Prague, CZ

Postby gementricxs » 08-Feb-06 20:40

Magan, some men changed, some not.
You are Czech, so you should understand Slovak, right?
Go to the website of Slovak TV Markiza and at the top menu choose tv archív and then show Zámena manželiek and show from 7.2.2006. I don't know whether you are familiar with this show or not. Basically it's reality show where families "swap" wifes. One wife go for 10 days to the second family and the other wife go to the first family.
Definitely go to the website and watch it. It's even worse than you're saying.
The man treat the wife like a maid. He's complaining that she didn't prepare breakfast on time, that she make the bed badly, that the bin is full, that on the mirror is stain and so on. She's really like a maid and DID NOTHING to help her, to help with preparing food and other things.
I was really astonished whe I saw it, it's hard to believe that it's true. Anyway you'll see for yourself.
RachelMacgregor
Member
Posts: 5
Joined: 01-Feb-06 19:25

Postby RachelMacgregor » 08-Feb-06 20:48

magan wrote:I am not sure how realistic is that Canadian (who worked in CR) is speaking Czech. Be careful with degree of Czech learned as it is not easy language.
Courting customs very much depend on age of the people and their financial situation. Was he new in Canada or did he lived and worked there for a long time??

As to "courting by Czech men".........I have been around the block few times (with Czechs and Canadians) and don't have much to say to "romance". Czech men did not strike me as particularly romantic - customary shortest way to have sex (three dates?) and then weasel into situation where they can be "at home" where they both would stay in bed (she would cook meals for him without his help). You can create situation where Canadian woman would NOT cook for him (he would find that rather odd!).....Any Czech woman would start cooking for her man as that is the fastest way how to get man to marry you (some think). Once he would get her there (Czech women cook lovingly and do everything for their man) they would hardly get "out". He would only bring flowers before he gets her to have sex, later just for her Birthday or Name day (good idea, you can check Czech calendar there is name for each day). Then he will start forgeting ...

It would be Czech man phoning woman he is interested in and he will be persistent as many Czech women are playing coy and men know they have to "push"....woman will eventually say yes. He will be "showing" on the street where she works or live to meet her by chance. He would take her to movies, for coffee to sit and talk long time (only when courting not after they have sex), walks. In CR he would not usually take her out for dinner just for coffee to nice coffee house). Czechs almost never had their own apartments (lived with parents) so it would be weekend at the cottage of some friends (friends not there) he will invite her to go to get her to bed and have privacy. Going camping in the summer is another way (he would definitely play guitar by the fire and sing "tramp songs" all Czechs know. In winter, it would be skiing (also some friends cottage).

I apologize to all romantic Czech men. I know that there are some women on this board who do have them as husbands or boyfriends and they are more up-to-date on their behaviour with woman of other nationality. I personally would not chose Czech man for husband. Traditional role of good wife who works full time and does household and children full time for them is still very much in the back of their minds.

o.k. girls and (Czech) boys....now it is your turn!
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you, this is very helpful for my writing! And actually, it's very funny, too. Let me tell you the basic parts of the story so far. It's not a serious thing that I'm writing. And I'm really writing her part, not his part. I'm just doing all the research. (sigh, :wink: )

She is an electrical engineer, doctorate level. She went to Prague to work on a project in microcircuitry. She lived there for about 8-9 years, and would like to think she learned the language to at least make some friends. Then she moved to another place where English is the main language. OK, it's science fiction, they're on another planet in an outpost. He is also an Engineer, but they didn't meet until right before coming to this outpost. It's an international outpost, many cultures and nationalities work there.

I find it funny, the things you say, because the person who is writing his part is getting a lot of that correct without even knowing this! They are both in mid to late 30's in modern times. He was in the military, and went to university to be an Engineer. I wouldn't say he's terribly old-fashioned, but he has decided to court her and wants to be a little traditional for that.

I laugh because of the bringing her flowers before they marry, then forgetting to after that. Hmm, not so different from my ex-husband here in America. I would still love to hear other people's opinions, but this is very helpful. Thank you!

PS. my real name is Meghan.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests