Seeking Surname Meaning for WENTRCEK

Discussion in 'Looking for Ancestors' started by Smetana, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. Smetana

    Smetana Member

    I am seeking the meaning of the surname WENTRCEK (current spelling); VENTRCEK (spelling used by great grandfather in Moravia and later Texas); VENTRCKA (spelling used by 5th great grandfather); WENTRCZA (spelling used by 6th great grandfather, ca 1684 - 1732); and, VENTRCIL (spelling used by 7th great grandfather, ca 1645 - 1688). Would appreciate any assistance.
     
  2. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Blind guess, based on roots:

    ven = outside
    trčil = stretched

    Gig 'em!
     
  3. Smetana

    Smetana Member

    Thanks for the reply. Your suggestion sort of goes along with one sent to me several years ago - In the year 1669 the villagers of Zadverice were attacked by soldiers led by Emerich Tokoly, and they ran to hide in the nearby woods. One account is written...."len hlavy im ven tracali." I have been told this translates to..."only their heads jutted out."
     
  4. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's basically what the phrase translates to. Note, the phrase you quote is in Slovak, whereas the surname is in Czech. Zadvěřice is only about 15 km from the current border with Slovakia.
     
  5. Smetana

    Smetana Member

    Sova: Thanks for the additional information. I did not know that the story account was in Slovak, nor did I know that the village of Zadverice was that close to the border. I appreciate your input.
     
  6. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

  7. lindak

    lindak Member

    Hello Smetana,
    I noticed that you had ancestors from Zadverice. My grandfather was from there. He came to America rather late (1912), and I still have family over there that we are in contact with. I am hoping to visit the Czech Republic next year. My family there still owns the house my grandfather was born in. My grandfather's name was Karel Krampota. He Americanized his name to Charles. When he first came to America he settled in Kinney, Tx, and then moved to Iowa Colony Tx, where my father was raised. I live in Oregon now, and at times I miss that whole Texas Czech culture thing, that I was raised on.
     
  8. Smetana

    Smetana Member

    Lindak: Yes, the Krampotas that came to Texas were from the villages of Zadverice and Jasenna. My sources show that another Krampota (Thomas Krampota) arrived alone at the Port of Galveston aboard the CREFELD on 9 May 1902. He was a 24 year old blacksmith from Zadverice, and settled in Texas. Don't know if he is related to you or not.
     
  9. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Nice try, but I'm doubtful about it.

    My guess is that it is something related to vantroky.
     
  10. lindak

    lindak Member

    Smetana,
    Thomas Krampota was my grandfather's older brother. They had another brother, John, who also immigrated to America. The first of the family to immigrate was their uncle. I believe his name was also John, but I am not sure. He lived in Kinney. I believe he had either a store or a blacksmith shop.
     

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