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Czech two-tailed Lion

Postby rkasparek » 21-Nov-06 16:41

Hello folks!

I am wondering about the Czech two-tailed Lion, sometimes referred to in Heraldry as "Brunkvick's Lion" does anyone know the origin of this heraldic device?

Thanks in Advance!
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Postby eso » 21-Nov-06 17:14

I know, that Bruncvik was Czech mythical warrior, who with help of lion fought with nine-headed dragon.

About two tails:

By Dalimil chronicle was blazon lion reward from emperor Friedrich I. Barbarossa to king Vladislav II. for helping to conquer of Milano on 23 July 1158.

First historical proof is on seal of moravian nobleman Vladislav Jindřich from year 1213. But number of tails isn't recognizable.

Second tail was allegedly (again by Dalimil chronicle) added as reward from Roman king Oto IV to Czech king Přemysl Otakar I. for helping to defeat Saxons in 1204.

First reliable image of two-tailed dragon is on seal of prince Přemysl Otakar II from 1247

Source (Czech):
http://www.zsru.cz/sl/2003_2/St_listy_2 ... e_znaku_ČR
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Postby rkasparek » 21-Nov-06 17:22

Thank you again Eso!

Since heraldic practice states that one must be a direct male descendant in order to 'inherit' an established Coat of Arms, my brother and I, after much research and work with a Heraldic Artist, have devised one which has much meaning to us. It makes use of the two-tailed lion as well as the Sternberk Star from Zlin. It has been registered with the US Heraldic Registry and although has not been 'granted' proper, it has been 'assumed' by my brother and I.

http://usheraldicregistry.com/pmwiki.php?n=Registrations.20060707B

I appreciate your comments (as always)

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Postby eso » 21-Nov-06 18:16

rkasparek wrote:It has been registered with the US Heraldic Registry and although has not been 'granted' proper, it has been 'assumed' by my brother and I.


Wonderfull crest, Rick!

It's only shame, you haven't there Kasparek's cap too :)
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Postby rkasparek » 21-Nov-06 18:18

eso wrote:It's only shame, you haven't there Kasparek's cap too :)


::laughing:: Thanks Eso! Great idea!
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Postby wer » 21-Nov-06 18:50

Something more about Bruncvík Legend.

eso wrote:First reliable image of two-tailed dragon is on seal of prince Přemysl Otakar II from 1247

A dragon? That's a mistake, isn't it?
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Postby eso » 21-Nov-06 18:51

Because Fool's/Jester's cap isn't uncommon in heraldry:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/rrm/img/28400.jpg
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Postby eso » 21-Nov-06 18:51

wer wrote:A dragon? That's a mistake, isn't it?


Yes, it is :)
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Postby rkasparek » 21-Nov-06 19:01

wer wrote:Something more about Bruncvík Legend.


Thank you Wer!

There was also an interesting note at the bottom of the page about the Knights of Blanik Mountain - the sleeping army of St Wenceslas! Looks as though my genealogy includes his grandmother St. Ludmilla as well. Of course that line goes to St. Ludmilla via Duke Wratislaw (and unfortunately) through Boleslaw. Oh well.. sometimes genealogy can be heart-breaking!

Thanks again Wer!
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Postby dzurisova » 21-Nov-06 19:26

rkasparek wrote: Looks as though my genealogy includes his grandmother St. Ludmilla as well. Of course that line goes to St. Ludmilla via Duke Wratislaw (and unfortunately) through Boleslaw. Oh well.. sometimes genealogy can be heart-breaking!


Excuse my ignorance, but why is that heart-breaking?
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