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jgidley
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Joined: 28 Sep 2008
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: 29-Sep-08 10:24  Reply with quote

Dear Friends,

I am wondering if anyone knows if the company calling itself
"Czechmarionettes s. r. o."
is a bona fide supplier of Czech Marionettes or an online scam?

The address they give online is
Czech Marionettes
Korenskeho 11
150 00 Prague 5
Czech Republic
PH: +420 257 31 00 39

And the contact is via email:
info@czechmarionettes.com

Their URL is
http://www.czechmarionettes.com/

I had seen them recommended on a puppetry discussion board and I have ordered two marionettes from them over four weeks ago but have had nothing arrive as yet. I have emailed them several times with no reply and tried to phone them but with no answer.

I live in Australia so I cannot follow this up locally.

I would appreciate any local knowledge on this situation.

Very much appreciated in advance.

Dr Jennifer Gidley
Educational Psychologist
East Melbourne
Australia
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eso
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Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 1717
Location: Kladno/Prague

PostPosted: 29-Sep-08 11:00  Reply with quote

jgidley wrote:
Dear Friends,

I am wondering if anyone knows if the company calling itself
"Czechmarionettes s. r. o."
is a bona fide supplier of Czech Marionettes or an online scam?

The address they give online is
Czech Marionettes
Korenskeho 11
150 00 Prague 5
Czech Republic
PH: +420 257 31 00 39

And the contact is via email:
info@czechmarionettes.com

Their URL is
http://www.czechmarionettes.com/

I had seen them recommended on a puppetry discussion board and I have ordered two marionettes from them over four weeks ago but have had nothing arrive as yet. I have emailed them several times with no reply and tried to phone them but with no answer.



I don't know this company, but it's in offical trade register with address you wrote.

Czech Marionettes, s.r.o
Praha 5, Kořenského 1038/11, PSČ 150 00

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accountable person:

Thomas Davis Fuller , born 20.06.1962
New York, Brooklyn, Spenser street 3, apt. 4B, 11208
USA

Czech address: Praha 5 - Smíchov, Lidická 284/42, 150 00
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jgidley
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PostPosted: 29-Sep-08 11:57  Reply with quote

Thanks Thomas,

Hopefully this is a good sign and they will deliver the goods.

Jennifer
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eso
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PostPosted: 29-Sep-08 12:17  Reply with quote

jgidley wrote:
Thanks Thomas,

Hopefully this is a good sign and they will deliver the goods.

Jennifer


Thomas is guy who is in trade register stated as accountable person for Marionettes company Smile
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doodlin
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Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Location: Innisfail, Alberta,Canada

PostPosted: 26-Nov-08 4:33  Reply with quote

I have also been scammed!! Isent an order in Aug. and have never received it. They also would not answer my inquiries!! Am also having problems with the Art Shop. This does not look good for the Czech Republic.
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Petr_B
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Posts: 164
Location: Olomouc, CZ

PostPosted: 26-Nov-08 10:08  Reply with quote

doodlin wrote:
I have also been scammed!! Isent an order in Aug. and have never received it. They also would not answer my inquiries!! Am also having problems with the Art Shop. This does not look good for the Czech Republic.


Czechmarionettes s. r. o. (s.r.o. = Ltd.) is not the same as the Czech Republic! Wink

Anyway, is there a relation of Czechmarionettes.com (the website doesn't work at the moment) with http://www.czechmarionettes.cz/ or even http://www.czechmarionettes.org/?
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jgidley
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PostPosted: 26-Nov-08 23:16  Reply with quote

Hello,

I was the person who posted the original message. Firstly, I have still not received any goods nor ever received any response to my email queries.
I am in the process of trying to retrieve the lost money through my bank. I note that the original website address I gave is no longer working so I suspect that they have been exposed - perhaps by our posts here?

While I agree that this fraudulent website is not the the same as the Czech Republic, I am wondering if the Czech government has any watchdog departments that would investigate such a fraud? If not they need to do so. Clearly the frauds gave an address which could very easily be checked and as ESO pointed out above they are in the official trade register with a person named. This kind of online fraud should be investigated by the Czech republic or it will in the longrun get the Czech Republic a bad name in terms of online business services at least.

I have been to Prague and it is one of my favourite cities in the whole world, but I would no longer trust a website that has a czech address because I don't believe there are sufficient regulations in place. For example re the websites mentioned by Petr_B, I think the second one http://www.czechmarionettes.org/ is a bona fide puppet theatre company between Czech republic and New York and has a new york address.

However the second address http://www.czechmarionettes.cz/ which relates to an individual puppet maker I would not trust now. For all I know it may the other frauds just reconstituted as a new website. This is the problem with the CR not policing its registered businesses. Surely there must be more than two people in the world who have been defrauded by the frauds posing as

Czech Marionettes
Korenskeho 11
150 00 Prague 5
Czech Republic
PH: +420 257 31 00 39

The non-policing of officially registered businesses in Prague will do damage to all the many authentic businesses trying to do ethical online business.

Sincerely

Dr Jennifer Gidley
East Melbourne,
Australia
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doodlin
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Location: Innisfail, Alberta,Canada

PostPosted: 27-Nov-08 5:29  Reply with quote

I didn' mean to insult anyone with my reply, I only meant to infer that there would be a mistrust of doing business on line. These puppets are the most beautiful ones in the world and it is unfortunate that some one is giving you people a bad name. Then again it doesn't surprise me as money does strange things to people! I am wondering if there is a connection to the Art Shop as they have done the same thing to me and I am out of considerable money from both companies! What a shame.
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Polednikova
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Location: Karlín, Praha

PostPosted: 27-Nov-08 7:27  Reply with quote

doodlin wrote:
I have also been scammed!! Isent an order in Aug. and have never received it. They also would not answer my inquiries!! Am also having problems with the Art Shop. This does not look good for the Czech Republic.
Hardly, as the name listed is American!
accountable person:
Thomas Davis Fuller , born 20.06.1962
New York, Brooklyn, Spenser street 3, apt. 4B, 11208
USA
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eso
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PostPosted: 27-Nov-08 7:50  Reply with quote

Cheaters and scammers are everywhere.

I suggest to contact Czech Trade Inspectorate (Česká obchodní inspekce) - http://www.coi.cz/en/
Contact form: http://www.coi.cz/cs/epodatelna-1/

or

Czech Consumers Defence Association:
http://www.consumers.cz/
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