Kibicz, do you have better idea for short name of Czech republic? Now even Czech edition of National Geographic is named "National Geographic Česko" We say Německo, Slovensko, Rusko, Polsko... Why not Česko?
Well, I spoke about Bohemia, not about Bohemia and Moravia. Of course those who live in Moravia hate the same, but I was to lazy to write „Czech Republic“. The religious situation is in Moravian part of the Czech Republic other, because there is more Christians. Of course they also don't like missionaries, but it's not the same... :wink:
ČR? such as US or SAR(JAR).. reminds me discussion about calling USA citizens "Americans" . Čechy is fine with me( I am "Čech" not "Čes" ) and in formal issues I would use "Česká republika" anyway... May be but I still use "Atlas České republiky" when I want to find something. Moravsko? Anglicko, Americko, VelkoBritansko or Francouzsko*.. *this is what "Česko" is - part of adjective we can see in "Československo" "francouzskoněmecké zvtahy" etc..
Dr. Železný used to say: "Čechy, Morava a Slezsko, to je naše Česko" Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia, this is our Czechia.
Frank Lloyd Wright (among others) used to suggest that we call ourselves "Usonians" over here - :shock:
Because it was for the most part part of Prussia. The central europe is mostly defined as former Austro-Hungary and Prussia (and of course the rest of Germany, that wasn't part of Prussia).
This is, may be, the real reason why so many people are not happy with "Česko", it is considered as crippled "Československo" 8)
Well, it's just one of the reasons, it's true that the word "Česko" looks like an unwanted child born from The Hyphen War (Pomlčková vojna).
The definition of Central Europe is arbitrary, but Czech Republic figures in all meaningful definitions. The problem of westerners is they have minimal knowledge of Central Europe and thus they tend to use terminology based on the Cold War which is the only they know. But this is unappropriate as all other definitions based on short-term events (ie. all politically and economically based definitions are wrong). We need a constant definition (e.g. a geographical one) or a very slowly changing (e.g. a cultural or religious one). In addition, the communists always respected the traditional definition of Central Europe, so the western Cold war terminology is different from the eastern one. Czechs have no need to adopt the western terminology and are outraged by it, because the terminologic shift to the east is not in accord with recent political shift to the west. “Česko” is derived from “český” which is modern form of the ancient form “češský” which is regularly derived from “Čech”. “Čechký” is nonsense. The word “Česko” is quite old, but its original meaning was identical with “Čechy”. „Velkobritsko”, když už.
took me a little while to get that last part of northern ireland I tried to look up a word 'hoirský' :shock:
Just for information - czech names of EU states: Belgium - Belgie Bulgaria - Bulharsko Czechia - Česko Denmark - Dánsko Estonia - Estonsko Finnland - Finsko France - Francie Ireland - Irsko Italy - Itálie Cyprus - Kypr Lithuania - Litva Latvia - Lotyšsko Luxembourg - Lucembursko Malta - Malta Hungary - Maďarsko Germany - Německo Netherlands - Nizozemsko Poland - Polsko Portugal - Portugalsko Austria - Rakousko Romania - Rumunsko Greece - Řecko Slovakia - Slovensko Slovenia - Slovinsko United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - Spojené královstí Velké Británie a Severního Irska (United Kingdom - Spojené Království, Great Britain - Velká Británie, England - Anglie) Spain - Španělsko Sweden - Švédsko Other states: USA - Spojené státy americké (abbreviated as USA) Switzerland - Švýcarsko Russia - Rusko
That's nothing, my father still rants about how he hated the mandatory school subject "Religion" (which at that time was Roman Catholics teachings) pretty much every time I visit him. And he went to school well over 60 years ago. :lol: But again, he's a very anti-church and religion (any church/religion) person.
Andorra is Andorra It is not member of EU, despite they use €€€ and have EU sings on roads when comming in. Charming little place, I have been there in February, high hills around, La Vella in a valley with couple of streets and a lot of shops, I have been told once it is the shopping basket for Spain and France, because of its low prices (as I saw, cigarettes at least).
On that Eastern vs Central Europe issue, I've just come across this: Eastern Europe countries according to United Nations: It seems that as far as the UN are concerned there's no such region as Central Europe, just as there isn't "Central" amongst the points of the compass. So, from a purely technical viewpoint, there's nothing wrong with saying that the Czech Republic is in Eastern Europe.
"Pedant's Corner" Geographically, Europe stretches east-west through 70 degrees of longitude from Ykaterinburg (60.5 degrees east) to Cabo de Roca in Portugal (9.5 degrees west). That means that the halfway point is at 25.5 degrees east, which is in the (western part of) Ukraine. Thus, geographically the Czech Republic could claim to be in the western half of Europe!! The Czech Republic is definitely in the central third (and still looks central on a map containing just the EU member states). NB: This would take the UN many millions of man hours to agree upon. It took me 5 minutes
