A HongKong girl with a Czech guy

Discussion in 'Culture' started by shanshan, Oct 23, 2004.

  1. shanshan

    shanshan New Member

    I am a chinese girl from HongKong,now studying in a university of mexico as an exchange student for a year.
    I met a Czech student in my classes of the university. He is from Pargue.
    I know nothing about the culture of Czech or Pargue :(
    And days before, he told me that he likes me and want to stay with me.
    i am just wondering that....
    How do the czech people think of Asian or Chinese, or even Hongkongese?
    i don't really know.
    Besides, i also want to ask is it very common for czech male to kiss girls????After he has confessed, he kissed me over and over.
    To me, as a chinese girl, it is really really really weird
    (Kissing is not a part of the chinese culture)
    i think it is very strange of him as he has just asked me out for twice only before his confession.
    An other point is that he already has a grilfriend in Prague.
    So, in this case, does it respresents that he just wants a short term relationship?i am just confused
    Would anyone mind helping me to answer my questions?
    Thanks a millions!!!!!
     
  2. Tomanka

    Tomanka Member

    Hi,
    I'm from Czech republic myself and I wonder if you didn't meet my friend who is corrently studying in Mexico. It sounds ver ymuch like him. :)
    Don't be confused by his early conffession, it is normal. And kissing a lot? Oh yeah, that is normal. And be prepared, he will probably want to show his affection to you on public.
    I don't think young people in Czech rep. would have some problems with Chinease people at all.
    however the fact that he has a girlfriend in czech means a lot! Get rid of him immediatelly because he is probably just seaking somebody for very sort kind of relationship. you can still try to get to know him more, maybe he will be able to explain it.... but personally, I'd run away!

    well, good luck there!
     
  3. Eva2

    Eva2 Well-Known Member

    If he has confessed to a girlfriend in Prague, he is seeking a relationship for the duration of his stay in Mexico. At least he is not misleading you.

    As Tomanka said, kissing is normal in CR, both in private and in public places. It is interesting that kissing is not part of Chinese culture - I didn't know that. What do you usually do on a date? Just holding hands? Do married couples kiss?
     
  4. Sam Chen

    Sam Chen Member

    Wow, it's so interesting to hear another relationship between an Asian and a Czech. I think I have a lot to share with you, Shan shan.

    Two months ago I met my Czech girl and I had very few ideas about Czech republic. She caught my eyes at the first sight and we had really pleasant conversation. However, I was not sure of the actions she did and what they really meant. For example, we had a big hug when we said goodbye to each other on the night we first met. You know it well that this is absolutely not a part of Chinese culture or manners. I have some western friends here but most of them are Americans or Canadians and sometimes we hug simply for good friendship. (For sure I only do this to some close western friends.) Yet I never met a Czech before ~ not even an European. I did this because I found her really attractive to me but I had no idea if she had the same feelings on me with the hug. Then, I came to here and discovered a lot Czech cultural facts. Hugging is not that common between friends in Czech, especially for a new friend! So then I understood the hug really meant something between us. In this aspect, Czech people have similar ideas to Chinese's.

     
  5. Sam Chen

    Sam Chen Member

    Wow, it's so interesting to hear another relationship between an Asian and a Czech. I think I have a lot to share with you, Shan shan.

    Two months ago I met my Czech girl and I had very few ideas about Czech republic. She caught my eyes at the first sight and we had really pleasant conversation. However, I was not sure of the actions she did and what they really meant. For example, we had a big hug when we said goodbye to each other on the night we first met. You know it well that this is absolutely not a part of Chinese culture or manners. I have some western friends here but most of them are Americans or Canadians and sometimes we hug simply for good friendship. (For sure I only do this to some close western friends.) Yet I never met a Czech before ~ not even an European. I did this because I found her really attractive to me but I had no idea if she had the same feelings on me with the hug. Then, I came to here and discovered a lot Czech cultural facts. Hugging is not that common between friends in Czech, especially for a new friend! So then I understood the hug really meant something between us. In this aspect, Czech people have similar ideas to Chinese's.

    There are some Vietnam expat in Czech, so Asian faces are not that strange to them. Some Czech don't have very positive impression with Vietnam people though, I don't think there will be any big problem with them to get alone with Asian.

    Ha, I did this to my Czech girlfriend, too. I think it's nothing to do with if he is a Czech or not. It depends on each individual's experience on this. In general, Chinese are more conservative on this than Westerners, no matter males or females. If you really feel weird with this, you can try to "educate" him with some Chinese culture lessons. Otherwise, why don't you relax and enjoy it? (Of course first you must have the feelings to do so.) Maybe at the beginning it will be a bit strange or embarrassing for you to talk about this with him. However, this is what I do with my Czech girl so that we have positive interactions and know each other's cultural backgrounds more and more. This is really a great fun!

    This is another cultural difference. Before being with her, I hung out with her for several times simply as a friend. She then thought I was too shy to express myself because I was a Taiwanese! Actually, I felt like to know her more before starting the relationship, otherwise it would be wasting my time with a wrong person. The point is not how many times you go out but how much you know him/her and what you need from the person in a relationship. I know for Chinese there are more "procedure" to follow step by step. I'm not so traditional though, somehow I don't feel good to rush into a new relationship. That would be like nothing but blind passion. On the other hand, if you feel ok with him, the confession after two times hangover is not unacceptable. Is this your first experience having a western boyfriend? Otherwise you should have been used to it. Definitely Easterners and Westerners have different "pace" in an affair; however, it's always most important that to make sure your own feelings with him/her first.


    I have similar situation but not quiet the same. My girlfriend is leaving in one week... :? But, she has no boyfriend somewhere else. I think it doesn't matter that much how long you stay with each other but if you can have good time and things in common. Yet if I were you, I would think about the question that his girlfriend in Czech before starting the relationship. Why don't you discuss this with him directly? This is the way I do with my girl.

    My friends, even some of her friends, doubt why we want to have a two months relationship. And some of them tell me to ask her to stay longer. In fact, I have two jobs and night school here and she is still on her travel. I don't feel like to do anything to change her or my life. Come on, you can't make a 180 degree turn to your life only for a person. It's unnatural. She thinks the same thing. For me, it's more important to have a "connection" with her more than a "relationship." I have told her someday and somewhere I will meet her again. (This is not a sweet dream but my plan in the near future!) I really like her, but I know the more affection I have with her, when she is not here anymore, the hole in my heart will be deeper.... Yet I am prepared for this since I made up my mind to be with her. I still feel it's worthy. You can have a regular, plain, long term relationship with someone and then brake up for non-connection. Then, will it be a better situation? Of course, it would be better if I could stay with her longer, but it doesn't mean this is my first concern in our relationship.

    Think about what you are looking for from him in this relationship. And it's always the best to make things straight at the beginning. Thereby, you won't have any bad feelings or regret even the relationship has to reach its end.

    I'd like to share more with you, Shan. Yet I don't have much time left now. I will write you more the other day. I would be glad if I can be of any help with this to you.

    Enjoy your Czech experience!!

    Na zdravi,

    Sam :wink:
     
  6. Sam Chen

    Sam Chen Member

    Of course we Chinese kiss, too!! Shanshan didn't give a very clear idea with this in her message. Yet I understand what she meant.

    In general, Chinese don't kiss in public occasions. Some young people do, but they are of minority.

    In Chinese ideas of a relationship, you must set up the relationship first, and then "gradually" you have some more close body contacts. A typical example would be like: a boy makes a confession to a girl, and the girl admits the relationship. Then,

    <Stage 1> holding hands, hugging; :)
    <Stage 2> longer hugging, slight kisses, dating till late hours; :lol:
    <Stage 3> deep kisses, caressing, maybe overnight staying; :shock:
    <Stage 4> having sex. :oops:

    Some details depend but I think the idea I give here covers at least 80 percent cases.

    We also have some extreme cases. For very traditional Chinese, you can't have sex until you are married. I mean, your sex partner must be your spouse. And, kissing and caressing are included in the part of "having sex." Therefore, if someday you meet some Chinese at age of twenty something and s/he tells you that s/he is a virgin, don't be surprised too much.

    Is this really unbelievable to you?

    In Taiwan this has been changing because numerous Western cultural impacts. Yet for the whole society the "procedure" above is still the standard concept in people's minds. It's too complicated to explain it here why we have this concept. If you know some things about Chinese culture, history and tradition, it will be easier for you to get the image.

    Hope this helps you to get some clues.

    Sam :wink:
     
  7. Eva2

    Eva2 Well-Known Member

    >For very traditional Chinese, you can't have sex until you are married. I mean, your sex partner must be your spouse.<

    We can understand this easily as until recently our society had the same moral precepts. The anti-conception pill changed all that in the sixties.
     
  8. Sam Chen

    Sam Chen Member

    My Czech girlfriend just got off Taiwan yesterday evening. I was with her until she got on the flight. It was bad.... my first time being in airport at night time.

    Today is a tough day. Her images and voice are still lingering in my mind. Of course, those Czech words as well.

    Could anyone help me with the spelling of "sa shi bi no?" She always called me this, and she said this a Czech word used to call some close friends for joking, meaning dirty head something.

    God bless me can walk out this blue mood as soon as possible...

    Na zdravi
     
  9. shanshan

    shanshan New Member

    well, thanks alot for all of yor replies.
    i am still staying with him as i want to know more about him.
    thanks for everyone and i will take care
    Send all my thanks from Mexico city :eek:
     
  10. shanshan

    shanshan New Member

    special thanks for you SAM.
    When he first kissed me ,i still remember that i was like a log of wood and i didn't know how to respond.
    i still stood there like a stone, very very very shocked.......
    It is far too scary for me, a chinese girl to accept that.

    Tamanka, where is your friend now?In Mexico city too?
     
  11. Eva2

    Eva2 Well-Known Member

    Sa-shi-bi-no? It sounds cute but I don't know what it means. Ask her to spell it for you.
     
  12. Tomanka

    Tomanka Member

    this will be mostly for Shanshan. I hope you will keep us informed :wink: about your possible relationship.

    yes, my friend is still in Mexico, I beleive he's staying till december or January but I'm not sure. His name is Martin, by the way. Is it the same guy?
     
  13. Frantisku

    Frantisku New Member

    Do you know where is your friend?
     

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