New Czech National Library

Discussion in 'Culture' started by GlennInFlorida, Jul 1, 2007.

  1. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    Just wondering how you feel about this winning entry in the competition for a design for a new Czech National Library - my opinion is oof...

    and I've been a registered architect for over 25 years.

  2. Yvan

    Yvan Well-Known Member

    I like it very much. It's realy wonderful.
    I'm not an architect but a Prague citizen who'll use it.
  3. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Oh, Glenn, do you want to instigate a cruel dispute of all Czechs on this forum? :twisted: This topic is very controverse, and the debate about it is far of beeing factual.

    I’m opposed to it.

    1) I dislike it and its location. :? (But I understand somebody could like it. 8))
    2) I’m doubtful about its functionality and expandability. :?
    3) I distrust the budget. The costs are underestimated. :roll:
    4) I distrust the library director’s plans with the historic building of Klementinum. :(
    5) The competition was unfair. The winner did violate the rules and the jury was biased. :evil:

    6) It’s a plagiarism. :p


    And I’m the Non-Praguer who is supposed to pay for it.
  4. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    I like it
  5. alhio

    alhio Member

    I like it as well.
    The building is really a bit provocative but anyway Prague changes and it is normal such a contrasts to its historical sights to be striking.
    The design reminds me not Futurama but rather some Barba family features :)
  6. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    I think I would like it a whole lot more if it were a different color - maybe silver and black. I also understand that this is just a model and, as such, is lacking in textural details that will enrich the finished building. Perhaps it will end up like "Fred and Ginger" - the dancing building - disliked by many at first but now widely accepted as good, and possibly great, architecture.
  7. Troll

    Troll Well-Known Member

    There is a crucial difference between "Ginger and Fred" and the new library:

    The "dancing" building has a private investor and user.

    The Czech tax payers will :cry: . The costs will be enormous.
    The National Library is essentially a book depository and would have to be rather inexpensive with maximal functionality and serviceability.
  8. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Was this building designed by Gary Larson?
  9. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    Yep :), the author said something along these lines. Let’s hope the final project will be better 8) (and, unlike the model in the competition, will meet the Czech technic standards :roll:).

    At first I was in favor of this house, but now the stupid pillars in the most frequent part of the sidewalk drive me crazy. I still like its look, but from the perspective of the walkers, the house is not working.

    My words! 8)

    The library is designed by Jan Kaplický. (“Disigned”, that’s a good word, btw, better than “projected”.)

    The Dancing House is from Vlado Milunić and Frank O. Gehry.
  10. Sova

    Sova Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I guess my joke was too obscure. Gary Larson is the author of the Far Side comic strip.
  11. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    …and it is said that the world is globalized. I never heard of him before.
  12. Karkulka

    Karkulka Active Member

    I don´t like much the look of the new library, however, I find it nicer and more acceptable than the new ugly fountains, that will be built in my hometown Plzen. :roll:
    That´s also something "modern", but ugly as hell and absolutely awfull in the contrast to the old buildings.. geez. And I can tell you, it took two rounds of voting to get this through and many people still believe, the voting was manipulated.. :evil:

    The project:

    Expected look:
  13. wissy

    wissy Well-Known Member

    Oh my God they're ugly !!! :shock: How could anyone in their right mind allow this.
  14. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    We have this one in Tampa


    it is nicknamed "the exploding chicken" - not too fond of it.
  15. Alexx

    Alexx Well-Known Member

    Nice topic :)

    We probably should rename it: Post pictures of ugly-modern things in your town :wink:
  16. eso

    eso Well-Known Member

    Second one looks like gallows!
  17. Karkulka

    Karkulka Active Member

    Yes, it does. Most of Czech people already started to call it like that - šibenice! It´s absolutely awfull..
  18. Alexx

    Alexx Well-Known Member

    Btw. the library is often called "chobotnice" (octopus).
  19. Polednikova

    Polednikova Well-Known Member

    I know nothing about design or engineering - perhaps Glenn could comment - but I've just been speaking to an architect who says that in her opinion, the small top of the building ie the head of the octupus, will lead to problems with the heating system and that it'll be far too hot on the top floors.
  20. Eleshar

    Eleshar Well-Known Member

    In fact, the new library has many names. On of them is also "hlen".

    And the gallows... are you sure it is not going to be only temporary? About four years ago, on Náměstí Jana Palacha (just in front of Rudolfinum) there was a orange/red construction (postmodern art) and THAT was really horrible...

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