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Good article on the American tourist

Postby Sova » 18-Jun-08 16:13

From MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25200108/.

Just curious to hear others' (American or not) comments on this article.
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Postby eso » 18-Jun-08 16:52

Sova wrote:From MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25200108/.

Just curious to hear others' (American or not) comments on this article.


I think it's good article and advices. Particularly points 6, 7 and 9.
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Postby scrimshaw » 18-Jun-08 18:08

This is lifted from that msnbc article..

Americans traveling abroad have a particularly bad rap. They're loud, poorly dressed and — worst of all — obvious. The Ugly American.

Is that true? Is this how you would describe american tourists?
Jsem zvědav, jak by to vypadalo, kdybych byl přivolávačem deště. Jak by to vypadalo, kdybych uměl přivolat déšt'?
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Postby petri » 18-Jun-08 20:36

scrimshaw wrote:This is lifted from that msnbc article..

Americans traveling abroad have a particularly bad rap. They're loud, poorly dressed and — worst of all — obvious. The Ugly American.

Is that true? Is this how you would describe american tourists?


That discription fits to so many other tourists too...
On the other hand I´ve seen really smart and well behaving American tourists. :wink:
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Postby Sova » 18-Jun-08 21:51

scrimshaw wrote:They're loud, poorly dressed and — worst of all — obvious.

Is that true? Is this how you would describe american tourists?

When I was in Prague 12 years ago, it was painfully easy to pick out an American in a crowd (usually, at least). Americans do tend to speak much louder than Czechs (unless they're drunkards). American tourists tend to wear obvious clothes: e.g. shorts, T-shirts. Not to mention the American swagger. It was a rare thing for me to get fooled by an American, and usually it was not by a tourist, but by someone who have lived in Prague awhile and knew the culture better than to act so blatantly American.
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Postby Ktot » 18-Jun-08 21:56

That discription fits to so many other tourists too...
On the other hand I´ve seen really smart and well behaving American tourists.

In the U.S, the stereotype is about Japanese tourists.


...The pairing of 7 and 8 amuse me. The stereotypical "ugly" tourist expects everyone to speak their language, and is frustrated otherwise, but at the same time expects that nothing they say in public will be understood. I never quite understood the logic of that.

Most of that advice was common sense (which of course, isn't all that common), and when I travel I certainly try to do those things. Once when I was in Germany, my mother came to visit, who had never been out of the country. In many ways, she is that tourist, and traveling with her was painful, not because of how people reacted, but because I was aware of it, and was personally mortified on her and America's behalf. :roll:
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Postby Ktot » 18-Jun-08 22:15

I like that the article advised people to be culturally aware while still being themselves. (I've been advised to say I'm Canadian while traveling, and I know people that do...it drives me crazy.)
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Postby scrimshaw » 19-Jun-08 0:41

First of all, I would say to that. Why is America disliked overseas? Second I would say I am not sure I agree with that assertion.
Ok, itś a given that not everybody agreed with the US when, without UN backing, went to war. Is that it? I know president Mitterand was quite upset with us. What is this basis for the idea that we are disliked?
I might be naive here, but I think that is kind of urban legend.
Sure some parts of southern Asia dislike us, but I would offer this, that just as many there are glad we are doing what we are doing.
Is america viewed as militant? Cowboyish? Whatever that means.
Act first, think of consequences later?
I am not sure I agree with the statement, that, as a whole, we are disliked.
That would be a shame, to have to play down the idea that we are American when we travel.
Sure, don't be obnoxious, but I think that's a rule for any tourist.
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Postby Ktot » 19-Jun-08 1:50

Scrimshaw, all I meant it that I am very aware that I represent my country, and I attempt to do it well. Perhaps I worded wrong.

There being a stereotype is not the same as being disliked. I know of all sorts of stereotypes (both positive and negative) of different groups of people that I do not believe. But despite that, if one meets someone of a particular group, who does fit the stereotype, the person will still think "go figure."

An American stereotype can include both positive and negative characteristics. But one: it's always better to distinguish yourself as an individual than simply "another member of Group whatever", and two: if one of those negative characteristics in the stereotype is loud, it would do one well to try hard not to be loud, because people will notice it more if you are, and because if you're not...who knows, maybe you can contribute to changing that stereotype.
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Postby Irena M » 19-Jun-08 3:38

Maybe because I'm not US born, (I was born in Prague), I had no problems being an "American" when I went back to visit. Maybe because I kept myself low key?
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