Pronunciation of Family Name

Discussion in 'Grammar & Pronunciation' started by kimba, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    Well, they can afford a Navy, they just don't need one - both have an Air Force - perhaps Chomsky needs to reevaluate his light-heaarted definition :wink:
     
  2. Zeisig

    Zeisig Well-Known Member

    From strictly linguistic point of view Czech and Slovak are dialects of one language, because the distance between Standard Czech and Standard Slovak is comparable to the distance between two distant Czech dialects. If a Czech understands all Czech dialects, he MUST be able understand Slovak (at least in the standard version).

    It is an insignificant argument. The same children (not understanding Slovak) probably cannot understand the Czech dialects, which they are not familiar with.
     
  3. Ájík

    Ájík Well-Known Member

    I don't agree, until our children do understand the Czech language :wink: they would always understanding Slovak as well.
     
  4. Zeisig

    Zeisig Well-Known Member

    It always depends on the age and especially on the motivation.
     
  5. Eleshar

    Eleshar Well-Known Member

    Well... as the "language" is not a pretheoretic notion, it all depends on given definition (which is purely conventional) and there are too many incogruities in the world to class it unambiguously according to its supposed "closeness". Let's consider it two different languages as they have both their codifications and institutes for reglementation.
     
  6. Karel_lerak

    Karel_lerak Well-Known Member

    It was not said as argument for saying there were two languages.
    It was merely a sigh :(
    To be able to make a decision we would first need an exact definition, when the difference between dialects is so large that we can say "it's a different language". Otherwise it is only a political desision. 8) 8)
     
  7. Karel_lerak

    Karel_lerak Well-Known Member

    Don't be so optimistic.
    I know people asserting they never uderstood slovak 8)
     
  8. Ájík

    Ájík Well-Known Member



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    .... is it a political desision?
     
  9. wer

    wer Well-Known Member

    No, this is a political decision:

    ... Slovenský národ je čiastka i rečové i kultúrno-historicky jednotného česko-slovenského národa... (Martinská deklarácia, 1918)
     
  10. Karel_lerak

    Karel_lerak Well-Known Member

    This (is a political decision) too:

    460/1992 Zb.
    ÚSTAVA SLOVENSKEJ REPUBLIKY z 1. septembra 1992

    Čl.6
    (1) Na území Slovenskej republiky je štátnym jazykom slovenský jazyk.
    (2) Používanie iných jazykov než štátneho jazyka v úradnom styku ustanoví zákon.
     
  11. Ájík

    Ájík Well-Known Member

    Thanks, You have already confirmed what I wanted to say. :wink: :wink:
     
  12. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    forgive my poor czech/slovak - I think that the above says that Slovak is the official state language of Slovakia - yes?

    Also, I notice "Septembra" - what are the month names in Slovak?
     
  13. Zeisig

    Zeisig Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is from the Slovak Constitution from 1992.

    But the Martin Declaration from 1918 says that the Slovak nation is one part of the Czech-Slovak nation which is integral (unific) both linguistically and culturally-historically.

    An interesting shift. :)

    The month names in Slovak are from Latin.
     
  14. Karel_lerak

    Karel_lerak Well-Known Member

    Január
    Február
    Marec
    Apríl
    Máj
    Jún
    Júl
    August
    September
    Október
    November
    December
     
  15. GlennInFlorida

    GlennInFlorida Well-Known Member

    Thanks (still like Czech names better)
     

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